“I got a question. If you guys know so much about women, how come you’re here at like the Gas ‘n’ Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?”
I disagree with Chuck Klosterman a lot of the time, but his Lloyd Dobler essay is pretty hilarious. You can tell he wrote it soon after being dumped (and he admitted as much in a later book.)
I forget the nuances of his entire argument, but it was something like: The thing about Dobler is, lots of women seem to want John Cusack to sit outside their house at ungodly hours of the morning playing “In Your Eyes.” But, in the real world, that sorta thing usually comes across as real stalkerish (in a Lili Taylor, “30 songs about Joe” way.)
At any rate, I remember looking up to Lloyd back in the day too, and not just because he was down with the Ione.
Nah, the stalky behavior was never what appealed to me. It was more what Crowe was talking about in this article, the fact that Lloyd was such an optimist. He was sincere. I like that. All the boys I knew in high school were dickheads or meatheads. They were trying too hard to be cool. Lloyd fell for the smart girl, and he actually went out and got her. He though it was cool that she won the scholarship. He hung out with her at the old folks’ home. He supported her through her dad issues. And he forgave her when she screwed up. THAT’s what I love about Lloyd.
I only knew one guy in my high school that was a Lloyd Dobler, and try as I might, he never fell for me. He was a good friend, and I always held him up in my mind as the only kind of guy I could ever see myself marrying. I remember when he called up in college to tell me he was engaged. Believe me, if I was Lili Taylor, I would’ve written a song about it. 🙂
See, I guess I always liked a little dickhead with my Lloyd…which is why I love John Cusack nearly as much as I love him playing Lloyd, and almost as much as I love him playing Rob Gordon (High Fidelity.) Lloyd is almost *too* perfect. I love his honesty, but I also need someone as imperfect as I am. You know, somebody who’s capable of hurting me (just a little) every now and then. Otherwise, where’s the fun? Lloyd would never hurt Diane.
Kevin
January 13, 2008 — 6:30 pm
“I got a question. If you guys know so much about women, how come you’re here at like the Gas ‘n’ Sip on a Saturday night completely alone drinking beers with no women anywhere?”
I disagree with Chuck Klosterman a lot of the time, but his Lloyd Dobler essay is pretty hilarious. You can tell he wrote it soon after being dumped (and he admitted as much in a later book.)
I forget the nuances of his entire argument, but it was something like: The thing about Dobler is, lots of women seem to want John Cusack to sit outside their house at ungodly hours of the morning playing “In Your Eyes.” But, in the real world, that sorta thing usually comes across as real stalkerish (in a Lili Taylor, “30 songs about Joe” way.)
At any rate, I remember looking up to Lloyd back in the day too, and not just because he was down with the Ione.
Kris
January 13, 2008 — 10:46 pm
Nah, the stalky behavior was never what appealed to me. It was more what Crowe was talking about in this article, the fact that Lloyd was such an optimist. He was sincere. I like that. All the boys I knew in high school were dickheads or meatheads. They were trying too hard to be cool. Lloyd fell for the smart girl, and he actually went out and got her. He though it was cool that she won the scholarship. He hung out with her at the old folks’ home. He supported her through her dad issues. And he forgave her when she screwed up. THAT’s what I love about Lloyd.
I only knew one guy in my high school that was a Lloyd Dobler, and try as I might, he never fell for me. He was a good friend, and I always held him up in my mind as the only kind of guy I could ever see myself marrying. I remember when he called up in college to tell me he was engaged. Believe me, if I was Lili Taylor, I would’ve written a song about it. 🙂
Aim
January 14, 2008 — 12:57 pm
See, I guess I always liked a little dickhead with my Lloyd…which is why I love John Cusack nearly as much as I love him playing Lloyd, and almost as much as I love him playing Rob Gordon (High Fidelity.) Lloyd is almost *too* perfect. I love his honesty, but I also need someone as imperfect as I am. You know, somebody who’s capable of hurting me (just a little) every now and then. Otherwise, where’s the fun? Lloyd would never hurt Diane.